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les becassines |
Some new gear for the upcoming season |
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My green canvas bullet purse is starting to show its age so I have been looking for a replacement. Other than cost the biggest limiting factor for me is size.
I don't need to carry enough shells for a day on a battlefield. A bag that will hold 100-150 12 gauge shells will hold enough 28 gauge or smaller shells to
last an entire season. A bad designed to hold 50 is about right. The one I got is a standard speed bag with a small opening and hinged lid. The same guy that I
got this from also had a recoil pad/butt extension that I wanted. For slip-on pads I have been using a pair of pachmayr decelerators, one rubber and one
leather with a wrap around velcro enclosure. Now I will have some new gear to go with the guns I will hunt with in the upcoming season. It will all seem new to
me since I have never shot one of them and I haven't shot either of the other two in three years.
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Marlin1895G |
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Hi Skip,
How are you? That slip-on pad looks nice.....did you purchase that as new? If so, does the retailer have a website? Thanks, Out of curiosity, is there a reason (hunting/weather conditions perhaps in your area) for opting for the shell bag instead of, let's say, a strap vest.....pockets loaded with 20 or 28ga don't feel as bulky as in the case of 12.
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irish snipe |
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Did you know you can also get a leather guard that slips over the barrels of your side by side Skip, in case the barrels get too hot? Keith
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LoboYZorro |
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Skip,
That is a great looking bag. I have looked at speed bags on the web. There are a great variety of materials and prices. I have some questions about them, though. It looks to me from just seeing pictures, that there is one compartment only. Where does one put the hulls? I always have a lot more hulls than birds. Where do the hulls go? I would guess the birds go on a strap attached to the belt and flop around as you walk, and stay a lot cooler than in the back compartment of a vest or shell bag. Another question is, how do you wear a speed bag? Does the strap go over your non shooting shoulder, the left shoulder for a right handed shooter, and the bag hangs down on the right? Again, I have seen pictures of shooters using speed bags, and they look very smart, but I wonder if that strap across the chest does not get in the way of the gun mount. I wonder if they were a development that preceded shooting vests or shell bags that go around your waist (like Filson makes), and are not really as functional as vests or waist fitting shell bags. What is your experience with them? Or, if you are about to have your first experience with one this fall, I would appreciate your comments after you have tried one. Yours is very good looking. As I get older (and less good looking myself), having good looking gear is becoming more attractive to me! Or does anyone else use them? Comments? Eliot |
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les becassines |
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Marlin, I got them new from ebay UK. I carry the bag because I am used to them and because most of the time it is too warm to wear any type of vest. I've
carried my shells in a bag for twenty years. I'd say that is from being influenced by the shotgun and bird hunting books I read. Thankfully there was no
internet so the ratio of information to misinformation was much higher than it is today. I have a strap vest that I wear also. A member of this forum took my
measurements and had it made for me. It has mesh panels and does a much better job than the other strap vests I have.
Keith, I think they look very sharp on a trim gun (not as sharp on a bulky gun) but I don't have one. I wear a thin, unlined deerskin glove on my left hand. I don't need to protect my hand from the barrels, I need to protect the barrels from my sweaty hand. I have heard that handguards can cause the barrels to discolor although just recently someone told me about one that won't do that. If I used one I'd have to get a make sure it was long enough. I was looking at the one Galco sells and I think my fingers would extend beyond the end of it. I keep just the slightest amount of the end of the forend against the bottom of the palm of my hand when I shoot. Eliot, I have a buffalo hide bag from Lewis Drake and a very small black bag (it holds about 1 1/2 boxes of .410 shells) that only have one compartment. My current green canvas bag and two small english saddle bags have a second smaller compartment. The second pocket on the green bag is in the back and the ones on the saddle bags are on the front. I use them to carry a pocket watch but that pocket could also hold a few empties. My straps vary from 1 1/8" wide up to 3" and none of them get in my way. I am right handed so the strap goes over my left shoulder. I don't know where they fit in historically but you see them also with muzzle loader shooters and their "possibles" bag. If I use a cartridge bag I also wear a set of waist bags. I have sets ranging from Filson (which isn't much cooler than their vest) to a cheap set made from thin cotton that I got for less than $10 including shipping. In the front left bag I carry a phone for emergencies, a handful of napkins, and a pair of bandannas for marking downed birds. Empty hulls go in the front right pocket and birds go in the larger bloodproof bag in the back. Most of the time when I carry a strap I don't put the birds on it until I am finished shooting. I have never seen anyone else in the field using the setup I use, and as much as any other reason that's probably why I do it. Skip |
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I must agree with Skip's evaluation of the Filson strap vest. Though they are well made, it is just a little too warm here for them. However, I like strap
vests because of the large pockets and the game pouch at the back. My shells go in the right pocket and the mobile, camera and cigarettes are in the left.
Hulls go in the game pouch as the bird boys carry my bird stringer.
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Marlin1895G |
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LoboYZorro wrote:LOL! Were you planning on wearing a tie as well during the hunt (kidding :))! The shell bags look nice indeed and do lend a bit of sophistication :). Admittedly, I've at times, thought of getting one from the retailer (below). In the past, I've acquired shotgun cases from him and found the quality as very good and at reasonable prices. http://www.jeffsoutfitters.com/store.aspx?panel=3&productid=489&categoryid=116 However, given my stomping grounds - the terrain and thick bush of Northern Ontario/Quebec - where the weather also has a nasty habit of changing it's mind without much notice I find that Filsons tend to serve very well.....I use their Oil CLoth Upland Jacket as well as the Guide Vest. I also use MOTHER's "Day Pack" that I've personally found to be very practical. |
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les becassines |
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"LOL! Were you planning on wearing a tie as well during the hunt (kidding :))!" Then he'd have to get some silly looking tweed britches that barely cover his knees.
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les becassines |
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Eliot, here is a typical setup for me. Even with two camera straps on my right shoulder you can see that nothing is where it would interfere with gun mounting.
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LoboYZorro |
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Skip You have on a lot of gear in the picture. Anyone who is a gear hound is a good guy in my book. And you are correct, I can see that a speed bag strap does
not interfere with the gun mount. You are also brave to carry two cameras into a wet field. I rarely fall, but I can jam my gun butt into the dirt or water
when I do and not hurt the gun a bit. I would be afraid of ruining my camera if I took it on a walking hunt in a wet field.
As far as my comment about enjoying good looking gear, I guess I have to confess that I do. I have never hunted in a tie and I have no plans to own breeks, but I sure do enjoy leather bags and game straps and fedora type hats for hunting. By the way, I have a pair of those rubber boots with leather interiors. They are one of the best items of gear I own. They are easy on and easy off because of the big zippers. They keep you warm and dry and they are great to walk in. LoboYZorro |
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les becassines |
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Eliot, are you talking about the Le Chameau wellies? I used to wear cheap rubber boots like Hodgman or Pro Line when duck hunting but I have always worn hip
waders when hunting snipe. A couple of days ago I ordered a new pair of wading boots for the upcoming season. There aren't too many options if you want lug
soles. If you need felt soles there are gobs of choices. I have gone through a pair of Hodgman's Brighton boot in each of the last two seasons. This year I
am going to try the ones below that Cabela's sells. I hope it is more durable.
I got my cartridge bag and slip-on recoil pad yesterday but they sent me the wrong bag. They sent me their brown one instead of the green one. I would have preferred the green one but it isn't worth anyone paying for me to return a $30 bag to England and then having them pay to ship one that is a different color but otherwise identical back over here.
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All very nice-looking stuff, indeed. What I'll need most of all this year is a good tractor and bush-hog, and/or a match (or even better ... a railroad
flare).
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LoboYZorro |
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Yes, Skip, Le Chameau boots. |
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all nice looking gear
I stick with Russell boots, they will put on any sole you want Skip, I have several pairs for different applications and one set of dooubles so that I can give one pair a day off in rotation, I cant say enough good about them. I shoot live bird ( ie pigeon, crow, dove, anything that will burn large numbers of shot) with a Bob Allen sporting clays bag, it is a bit cunmbersome when full but is the best I have found that I can wear year round in any weather from summer dry heat to winters heavy snow. I paid $40 for my first one and it lasted 20 years with some minor repair, that's pretty good for a $40 belt bag that has several hundred rounds hanging in it when walking long ways I wear a strap vest as this type of rough hunting rarely has high volume shooting here. Not sure if this link is going to work: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?type=product&id=0048936221307a&cmCat=netcon&cm_ven=netcon&cm_cat=&cm_pla=&cm_ite=netcon |
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les becassines |
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northernborn wrote: Bob, when you miss as much as I do all shooting has the potential to be high volume or else you end up going home with an empty game bag. On days when it is cool I can wear the mesh strap vest that I got from Snipe Shooter. On really, really cold days (I'm talking less than fifty degrees) I can use the waxed Filson. Otherwise wearing anything other than a thin cotton shirt is a bad idea.There is one exception that I started recently but I only do that prior to snipe season when I carry gatorade with me. Using a hydration system like a CamelBak is wise during rail season which starts the first of September. Temperatures then are still well into the nineties. That is tough to take when wearing long pants and waders. It tests not only your body but also your dedication. I got some upland boots about a year ago even though they don't see much use. I went with some Irish Setter Wingshooters that have a little bit of cordura on the uppers. Whether or not that actually lets them breathe better is up for debate and I imagine the gore-tex liner really limits it. One thing I wanted in the new boot was soles that are stitched on. I am tired of glued on soles coming loose and no matter what the guy at the leather/shoe repair shop does once mine come loose the first time they always come loose again soon after being re-glued. |
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